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Name:Daniel
Home: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
About Me: I used to believe that evolution was reasonable, that homosexuality was genetic, and that people became Christians because they couldn't deal with the 'reality' that this life was all there was. I used to believe, that if there was a heaven - I could get there by being good - and I used to think I was more or less a good person. I was wrong on all counts. One day I finally had my eyes opened and I saw that I was not going to go to heaven, but that I was certainly going to suffer the wrath of God for all my sin. I saw myself as a treasonous rebel at heart - I hated God for creating me just to send me to Hell - and I was wretched beyond my own comprehension. Into this spiritual vacuum Jesus Christ came and he opened my understanding - delivering me from God's wrath into God's grace. I was "saved" as an adult, and now my life is hid in Christ. I am by no means sinless, but by God's grace I am a repenting believer - a born again Christian.
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Daniel's posts are almost always pastoral and God centered. I appreciate and am challenged by them frequently. He has a great sense of humor as well.
- Marc Heinrich
His posts are either funny or challenging. He is very friendly and nice.
- Rose Cole
[He has] good posts, both the serious like this one, and the humorous like yesterday. [He is] the reason that I have restrained myself from making Canadian jokes in my posts.
- C-Train
This post contains nothing that is of any use to me. What were you thinking? Anyway, it's probably the best I've read all day.
- David Kjos
Daniel, nicely done and much more original than Frank the Turk.
- Jonathan Moorhead
There are some people who are smart, deep, or funny. There are not very many people that are all 3. Daniel is one of those people. His opinion, insight and humor have kept me coming back to his blog since I first visited earlier this year.
- Carla Rolfe
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| Logic and Christianity. |
In the previous post St. Lee brought reminded us that understanding of scripture ought not to offend our rational - that is, it ought to be logical. A few of us talked about that, but (as metas tend to do) the meta started to change orbit, as it were, and began to address the role/use of logic in Christianity, and I thought such a thing was worthy of its own post, and I also didn't want to piggy-back this sort of conversation in the meta of that particular post.
To that end - please carry on your logical meanderings here boys. ;-) |
posted by Daniel @
7:20 AM
 
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Is that which is logical always rational? Are we talking about rationality from a Christian perspective, or from a universal human perspective? Some definitions please.
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Daniel, I think you are simply fishing for humanistic thinking disguised as "christian logic" aren't you? :)
A couple of thoughts from scripture...
The natural man cannot understand the things of God, because they are spiritually discerned.
Peter said, you are the Christ, the Son of the living God. Jesus replied; blessed are you...because flesh and blood have not revealed this to you, but my Father in heaven.
No amount of human logic, reasoning, or deductions will ever be able to comprehend the ways of God, unless He Himself reveals to us the mystery hidden from the ages. In Thy light we see light.
Having said that, revelation from God will resonate with our spirit and our mind will also be in agreement. But we must bring every thought (including rational thinking) into the obedience of Christ Jesus.
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While the natural man cannot understand the things of God, the spiritual regenerated man can. The human brain and ability to reason logically and think are gifts from God. Logical thinking is required in formulating sound doctrine and is necessary in discernment. There are many passages that exhort us to think and discern (Phil 1:9-10, Rom 12:2, etc.).
One simply has to look at Islamic radicals, and Christian cults to see what can result when logical thinking is abandoned.
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deviant monk, when you say:
"Your assumptions, unfortunately, miss the bigger issues involved in reconcilation. A person 'going to hell' is not an ultimate issue- rather, it is more a symptom of something greater- that is, being out of relationship with and out of the life of God."
I was not attempting to boil down the issues of reconciliation. I was only addressing the subject of "limited" atonement and that only to the extent of trying to make an arguement for it that someone as simple minded as myself could understand. But thanks for clearing things up for us all!
As for my stating that Jesus is the ultimate logic, that has to do with the linking (in my own mind at least) of truth and logic. Possibly my understanding of the word "logic" is lacking.
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Is that which is logical always rational? Are we talking about rationality from a Christian perspective, or from a universal human perspective? Some definitions please.